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		<title>By: Jimmy Johnstone</title>
		<link>http://blog.eclipse.net.uk/more-bandwidth-please/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Johnstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article posted on BBC News today (10.11.08) has huge implications for ISP&#039;s and future trends of internet users.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7720918.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article posted on BBC News today (10.11.08) has huge implications for ISP&#8217;s and future trends of internet users.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Bant</title>
		<link>http://blog.eclipse.net.uk/more-bandwidth-please/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Bant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for commenting. I could not agree more. I&#039;m using my ipod touch to check my webmail, whilst my daughter is on the laptop, my wife is on the desktop and my youngest is playing and downloading Nintendo Wii characters on the wii machine. 

I&#039;ve watched every episode of Merlin from the BBC via my WII machine in full screen directly onto my TV. However, last night I could not get the BBC iplayer to do anything and watch any programme. Resources unavailable. I assume the BBC is struggling to provide us all with connections and I wanted to watch it directly streaming rather than downloading to the PC/LAPTOP. 

The BBC iplayer is a fantastic service when it works, but its sucking up bandwidth, so all ISP&#039;s need lower cost high-bandwidth from BT. Roll on multiple GB interconnect networks and higher performing DSL connections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting. I could not agree more. I&#8217;m using my ipod touch to check my webmail, whilst my daughter is on the laptop, my wife is on the desktop and my youngest is playing and downloading Nintendo Wii characters on the wii machine. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve watched every episode of Merlin from the BBC via my WII machine in full screen directly onto my TV. However, last night I could not get the BBC iplayer to do anything and watch any programme. Resources unavailable. I assume the BBC is struggling to provide us all with connections and I wanted to watch it directly streaming rather than downloading to the PC/LAPTOP. </p>
<p>The BBC iplayer is a fantastic service when it works, but its sucking up bandwidth, so all ISP&#8217;s need lower cost high-bandwidth from BT. Roll on multiple GB interconnect networks and higher performing DSL connections.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Johnstone</title>
		<link>http://blog.eclipse.net.uk/more-bandwidth-please/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Johnstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much has the average family usage gone up in the last 2-3 years? I would say it has shot up. The reason for this is laptop prices dropping and more and more T.V companies providing online services, Modern gaming online, I-tunes and social networking sites (although they might not require large amounts of bandwidth to use. they have got more people interested in using the net)

In my house we have 4 laptops and one desktop all running off the same connection. Getting used for all different things from online gaming to chatting with family on messenger who live abroad. 

We need more bandwidth please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much has the average family usage gone up in the last 2-3 years? I would say it has shot up. The reason for this is laptop prices dropping and more and more T.V companies providing online services, Modern gaming online, I-tunes and social networking sites (although they might not require large amounts of bandwidth to use. they have got more people interested in using the net)</p>
<p>In my house we have 4 laptops and one desktop all running off the same connection. Getting used for all different things from online gaming to chatting with family on messenger who live abroad. </p>
<p>We need more bandwidth please!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Taylor</title>
		<link>http://blog.eclipse.net.uk/more-bandwidth-please/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think even today we are beginning to see requirements for more bandwidth.  

Households are not only surfing the net and retrieving emails, but they are using it for telephone calls (VOIP), PC Online Gaming (World of WarCraft, or whatever the fad of the day may be),  XBox, PS3 and PSP all connect via the internet, Video Streaming (BBC iPlayer), Video Downloads (Lets not go into detail!) and Family Photo Album uploads/downloads.

With computers so cheap and laptops now coming free with your mobile phone, I think we&#039;ll soon see statistics in the UK showing average households with not just 2.4 children, but 2.4 laptops.

With a typical family using several of the above, more bandwidth right now please! 

Otherwise, us adults won&#039;t be able to watch Live at the Apollo when we want, as lets face it, who uses a recorder these day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think even today we are beginning to see requirements for more bandwidth.  </p>
<p>Households are not only surfing the net and retrieving emails, but they are using it for telephone calls (VOIP), PC Online Gaming (World of WarCraft, or whatever the fad of the day may be),  XBox, PS3 and PSP all connect via the internet, Video Streaming (BBC iPlayer), Video Downloads (Lets not go into detail!) and Family Photo Album uploads/downloads.</p>
<p>With computers so cheap and laptops now coming free with your mobile phone, I think we&#8217;ll soon see statistics in the UK showing average households with not just 2.4 children, but 2.4 laptops.</p>
<p>With a typical family using several of the above, more bandwidth right now please! </p>
<p>Otherwise, us adults won&#8217;t be able to watch Live at the Apollo when we want, as lets face it, who uses a recorder these day.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Bant</title>
		<link>http://blog.eclipse.net.uk/more-bandwidth-please/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Bant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main issue on bandwidth to the home is that we all use BT&#039;s wonderful copper and ADSL2+ / SDSL is as good as it gets in terms of speed over a copper line. Cable providers are a bit quicker than ADSL but what we really need is fibre to the home or an amazing higher speed &#039;mobile&#039; beyond 3G high speed access. 

There will definetely be a lag in bandwidth versus demand going forward as no-one can seem to justify digging fibre to the home to offer ethernet MB/GB connections. Large businesses can afford fibre links that are shared by the workforce and systems and GB fibre technology keeps advancing. 

However, I suspect ethernet over copper providing an up to 10Gbps (400 times faster than ADSL2+) would be possible nationally, before a fibre to the home solution comes along. The main issue will still be that the speed you get will be distance limited because the data is travelling down copper and not fibre (light) circuits. 

Imagine a world were bandwidth was not an issue and we had interaction at the speed of light. It would be the human brain and speed of thought that would be the limiting factor instead of bandwidth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main issue on bandwidth to the home is that we all use BT&#8217;s wonderful copper and ADSL2+ / SDSL is as good as it gets in terms of speed over a copper line. Cable providers are a bit quicker than ADSL but what we really need is fibre to the home or an amazing higher speed &#8216;mobile&#8217; beyond 3G high speed access. </p>
<p>There will definetely be a lag in bandwidth versus demand going forward as no-one can seem to justify digging fibre to the home to offer ethernet MB/GB connections. Large businesses can afford fibre links that are shared by the workforce and systems and GB fibre technology keeps advancing. </p>
<p>However, I suspect ethernet over copper providing an up to 10Gbps (400 times faster than ADSL2+) would be possible nationally, before a fibre to the home solution comes along. The main issue will still be that the speed you get will be distance limited because the data is travelling down copper and not fibre (light) circuits. </p>
<p>Imagine a world were bandwidth was not an issue and we had interaction at the speed of light. It would be the human brain and speed of thought that would be the limiting factor instead of bandwidth.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie Thomas</title>
		<link>http://blog.eclipse.net.uk/more-bandwidth-please/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how much bandwidth we will end up actually needing in years to come Neil? We are hearing things on Web 3.0 and how this will enable more of a &#039;Machine is Learning&#039; environment, will this extend out to even more clever technology use - will we ever be able to keep up with demand?
I suppose the more we depend on online for shopping, technology and business use the higher the demand for bandwidth - and that demand will push the providers into provision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how much bandwidth we will end up actually needing in years to come Neil? We are hearing things on Web 3.0 and how this will enable more of a &#8216;Machine is Learning&#8217; environment, will this extend out to even more clever technology use &#8211; will we ever be able to keep up with demand?<br />
I suppose the more we depend on online for shopping, technology and business use the higher the demand for bandwidth &#8211; and that demand will push the providers into provision.</p>
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